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the fact that their loss of life really led to the civil rights movement and the passage of the civil rights act. this nation owes your whole family and all the families a debt of gratitude. this is but a small gesture, but we are honored that you're here with us today. >> ladies, we owe you a debt of gratitude. thank you for making time for me this morning. i appreciate it. >>> that's going to wrap things up for me. >>> a quick reminder, chris matthews will anchor or special coverage of the george w. bush presidential library. don't go anywhere. "now" comes up next. >>> the boston bombers, and a web of conspiracy theories. did the controversial american talk show host play a role in their radicalization? we'll discuss. with amon mo ha dean, and howard wolfson. >>> also senator rand paul thinks drones can kill some americans, just maybe not others. we'll get the latest on the senate's attempt to shed light on america's shadow war. >>> plus digital office rachel howlett, and jarrell cohen join me to discussing the american innovation revolution, all of that next on "now." humans. even
the fact that their loss of life really led to the civil rights movement and the passage of the civil rights act. this nation owes your whole family and all the families a debt of gratitude. this is but a small gesture, but we are honored that you're here with us today. >> ladies, we owe you a debt of gratitude. thank you for making time for me this morning. i appreciate it. >>> that's going to wrap things up for me. >>> a quick reminder, chris matthews will anchor or...
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you would not have had it and not a series of civil rights pieces of sieve legislation pass given the way this senate operates. >> it's about leadership. david? >> i agree. >> on both sides of pennsylvania avenue -- >> we have had arguments on this show before about barack obama. i'm disappointed in him. i think he wasn't strong enough. i agree with, sadly, with maureen's column. >> i go back to what an ambassador from the middle east told me in year one about president obama. i thought he was extraordinarily moving at the state of the union. but said from the mistake they make, richard, i'm sure you heard this a lot. mistake they make at the white house in twine they blebelieve speech is the end instead of the speech the mean to get to the end. you start there. but you have to do the lyndon johnson, the george w. bush which is -- >> you think they are. the most salient fact in maureen's column is the person they are sending up to the hill is practically invisible. they think they are bending ears and doing politics but it's so ineffectual the result is what the result was. >> i've al
you would not have had it and not a series of civil rights pieces of sieve legislation pass given the way this senate operates. >> it's about leadership. david? >> i agree. >> on both sides of pennsylvania avenue -- >> we have had arguments on this show before about barack obama. i'm disappointed in him. i think he wasn't strong enough. i agree with, sadly, with maureen's column. >> i go back to what an ambassador from the middle east told me in year one about...
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rights activists, dissidents, what have you, and obviously they have much lower standards when it comes to these issues than we do. i don't think human rights came into the question here involving the ascertain yes, at least there's no indication to that effect. it would not be unusual to go back to the russians and ask for more. it would also not be unusual to have the line go dead at that point. >> one question that came up here today when we were trying to sort through this puzzle that was what in tamerlan tsarnaev's mind, why would the russians ask for information if he had not been in contact with radicals overseas? how would they have known about him? >> it's entirely possible that the russians had some signaled intelligence involving this individual that motivated them, or perhaps he had contacts in chechnya, in dagestan, in the northern caucasus, but they didn't make enough that available, it appears, and as a result we were all shortchanged in this matter. it's not unusual. the russians are extremely leery of letting us have any idea of what information collection capabilities
rights activists, dissidents, what have you, and obviously they have much lower standards when it comes to these issues than we do. i don't think human rights came into the question here involving the ascertain yes, at least there's no indication to that effect. it would not be unusual to go back to the russians and ask for more. it would also not be unusual to have the line go dead at that point. >> one question that came up here today when we were trying to sort through this puzzle that...
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right. >> in my view a civil trial, it should be a federal trial. >> right. and senator schumer, i know you agree this should go to a federal court. i want to quick read you something that one of your colleagues said. this is from senator carl levin, the chairman of the armed services committee. and in response to senator graham and others saying this man needs to be treated as a terrorist, this is what senator levin said. i am not aware of any evidence so far that the boston suspect is part of any organized group let alone al qaeda, the taliban or within of their affiliates. in the absence of such evidence, i know of no legal basis for his detention as an enemy combatant. to hold the suspect as an enemy combatant under these circumstances would be contrary to our laws and may even jeopardize our efforts to prosecute him for his crimes. where do you stand on this, senator schumer? >> well, i think that the good news is is we don't need enemy combatant to get all the information we need out of him. number one, the one court that has ruled has allowed a lot of
right. >> in my view a civil trial, it should be a federal trial. >> right. and senator schumer, i know you agree this should go to a federal court. i want to quick read you something that one of your colleagues said. this is from senator carl levin, the chairman of the armed services committee. and in response to senator graham and others saying this man needs to be treated as a terrorist, this is what senator levin said. i am not aware of any evidence so far that the boston...
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neighborhoods. >> you're right. but new york is one of the main beneficiaries of federal dollars. if not for the federal dollars it would be very difficult for new york to be as robust as they are. >> yeah, we can't lock up every young man who goes on a fantastical or nasty website, that becomes a big difficulty. in fact, we knew about this guy. >> the fbi talked to him in 2011. >> the parents readily admitted this in their interviews in dagestan. >> i assume in 2012, no one was tracking him when he returned. and if he visited chechnya what he was doing there. if you had that red flag raised i think you have to question why wasn't he followed up? >> you need a longterm strategy for terrorism. what happened in boston isn't the exception. this isn't a one-off. this is glimpse of the future. this is terrorism that one, two, three people can carry out. we live in a world where powers diffused. you don't need to do something on the scale of 9/11. that turns out much less difficult to find out about. >> it was extremely a
neighborhoods. >> you're right. but new york is one of the main beneficiaries of federal dollars. if not for the federal dollars it would be very difficult for new york to be as robust as they are. >> yeah, we can't lock up every young man who goes on a fantastical or nasty website, that becomes a big difficulty. in fact, we knew about this guy. >> the fbi talked to him in 2011. >> the parents readily admitted this in their interviews in dagestan. >> i assume in...
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but if he had he wouldn't have been intitled to a lawyer or civil trial. and they could have asked questions without a lawyer present. that may or m.i.a. not be relevant to national security. why did they make the decision not to go for enemy combatant case. did they have so much evidence that they don't need to hide behind enemy combatant? >> i they is part of it. looks like an overwhelming body of evidence. more that that, i think they felt they could get immediate information they needed by the miranda exception, the public safety exception. so they could make sure the public was safe. there doesn't seem to be a constitutional basis for treating an american citizen for acts committed in the united states as an enemy combatant. the quintessential enemy combatant case is a foreigner on a battlefield or elsewhere. the supreme court upheld treating an american, the american taliban captured in afghanistan as an enemy combatant. here on our own soil this is a paradigm case to be treated as a terrorist and prosecuted within the civilian court system. >> i see
but if he had he wouldn't have been intitled to a lawyer or civil trial. and they could have asked questions without a lawyer present. that may or m.i.a. not be relevant to national security. why did they make the decision not to go for enemy combatant case. did they have so much evidence that they don't need to hide behind enemy combatant? >> i they is part of it. looks like an overwhelming body of evidence. more that that, i think they felt they could get immediate information they...
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for, you know, women to come in and fix the country and everything is going to be a whole lot more civil and softer and easier and friendlier. actually, amy clubachar, had this to say. >> playing a role to get people here to avoid some of the things we are seeing right now with sequestration and to bring our debt down in a balanced way. >> wow, she is giving us a lot of credit as women. we will fix everything. it silly and a narrow view of politics and to suggest this dinner with 20 women senators will solve all theseout. that the problem with washington is too much penis, essentially. there's just too much penis in washington and not enough uterus. i think that's really silly. frankly, also -- >> i want that bumper sticker. too much penis. not enough uterus. >> i'll make you one. it also reflects the fact women are just as capable of being ruthless, of making bad decisions. this is women. i can show you how women are. that's women. we can throw tables and use our stuff and get a little cooky. >> sure. >> i'm kind of over this story. >> actually -- >> before it's begun. >> i feel that. n
for, you know, women to come in and fix the country and everything is going to be a whole lot more civil and softer and easier and friendlier. actually, amy clubachar, had this to say. >> playing a role to get people here to avoid some of the things we are seeing right now with sequestration and to bring our debt down in a balanced way. >> wow, she is giving us a lot of credit as women. we will fix everything. it silly and a narrow view of politics and to suggest this dinner with 20...
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is it the acla's position that dzhokhar tsarnaev should have had his miranda rights read to him. how confident are you that they will not invoke the enemy combatant rule in terms of denying him his constitutional rights. >> to be clear, the aclu is against having him declared an enemy combatant. but the miranda rule does allow a public safety exception and that is a very limited exception. it allows the police, law enforcement to ask about current and ongoing threats. it's limited both in what they can ask and in the amount of time. so that exception exists and you know, what we're making, what want to make sure is that the criminal justice system, which is both better at protecting his rights and better at actually convicting and coming to a, a fair conclusion to row resolve this issue is the best way to go about this. it's simply not appropriate or constitutional to treat american citizen as an enemy combatant. >> ron. >> captured in the u.s. >> indeed, we've been you know, we just had stand with rand, talking about drones and drone strikes killing american citizens, treatment
is it the acla's position that dzhokhar tsarnaev should have had his miranda rights read to him. how confident are you that they will not invoke the enemy combatant rule in terms of denying him his constitutional rights. >> to be clear, the aclu is against having him declared an enemy combatant. but the miranda rule does allow a public safety exception and that is a very limited exception. it allows the police, law enforcement to ask about current and ongoing threats. it's limited both in...
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that's important for people's sense of civility. people will -- the fbi will work with citizens trying to figure out was there a moment, a point in which there was no turning back for these two brothers. it is helpful not only for this case, but figuring out radicalizing in the future. >> the younger brother seemed to fit in more, but seemed under the sway of his older brother. >> that's no uncommon in crime waves. we saw in column bien, they weren't brothers. it may the younger brother is willing to communicate. he was the more isolated and more weak character. he's facing a pretty strong case against him. >> most of the questions that the investigators are now asking dzhokhar tsarnaev relate to public security. are there more devices, things like that. with so much attention on the bombers, we do want to remember the victims of this tragedy. a funeral is being held this hour for krystle campbell. she went to the marathon almost every single year. she had been called hard working. her grandmother says she was always smiling, a big
that's important for people's sense of civility. people will -- the fbi will work with citizens trying to figure out was there a moment, a point in which there was no turning back for these two brothers. it is helpful not only for this case, but figuring out radicalizing in the future. >> the younger brother seemed to fit in more, but seemed under the sway of his older brother. >> that's no uncommon in crime waves. we saw in column bien, they weren't brothers. it may the younger...
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>> that's right. i'm s. e. cupp. it is laid night at the white house. all 20 women on the senate. on the menu, halibut, peach pie and maybe a side of civility. >> and speaking of food, that's what we call a segue.
>> that's right. i'm s. e. cupp. it is laid night at the white house. all 20 women on the senate. on the menu, halibut, peach pie and maybe a side of civility. >> and speaking of food, that's what we call a segue.
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the white house right now has threatened a veto on this. what are the safeguards for personal civil liberties in this bill? that seems to be among the issues that some folks have. >> let me back up. that's a mike rogers intelligence bill. i provided the mccaul amendment, the privacy amendment that provided a civilian interface to the private sector rather han the military and nsa. i think my amendment was actually praised by the privacy group, supported by the aclu. i also intend to develop a cyber bill out of the committee on homeland security that deals with the role of d hrkhs and th sharing of threat information with the private sector and critical infrastructures to better protect them so we don't see financial institutions coming down and all the critical infrastructures out there. so i look forward, i've actually worked with the white house on my amendment and my bill, which i think is going to get more praise because it does have a civilian interface rather than military. >> all right. chairman of the house homeland security committ
the white house right now has threatened a veto on this. what are the safeguards for personal civil liberties in this bill? that seems to be among the issues that some folks have. >> let me back up. that's a mike rogers intelligence bill. i provided the mccaul amendment, the privacy amendment that provided a civilian interface to the private sector rather han the military and nsa. i think my amendment was actually praised by the privacy group, supported by the aclu. i also intend to...
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because they think -- >> that's the right wing zoo. >> yes, but they have a bit of a civil war here. >> i think it is. let's talk about that civil war. what happens if you have a good, tough bill which has got teeth in it, no easy rides, no amnesty, just a tough thing. if you want to become an american you got to sweat it, right? what's wrong with that politically for your party? >> nothing except for the fact it's going to be hard to get it out of the house. we have to get 70, 75 votes for it out of the senate to have enough momentum to get it to the house. 80 people voting against any comprehensive immigration bill no matter what it did. >> they like what we got? >> they like what they got and they want to be -- >> that's the alternative. >> they're worried about primaries. for republicans they've got to find a bipartisan path through the house and have the majority of republicans vote for it. that's going to be hard. rubio -- >> can i ask you a question? would it be good for america the the 11 million people that are here and have been here building families and biuilding lives an
because they think -- >> that's the right wing zoo. >> yes, but they have a bit of a civil war here. >> i think it is. let's talk about that civil war. what happens if you have a good, tough bill which has got teeth in it, no easy rides, no amnesty, just a tough thing. if you want to become an american you got to sweat it, right? what's wrong with that politically for your party? >> nothing except for the fact it's going to be hard to get it out of the house. we have to...
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, got civil liberty advocates up in arms. we'll talk about that. also talk about the special exception as well. stay with us. we'll get into that after the break. max and penny kept our bookstore exciting and would always come to my rescue. but as time passed, i started to notice max just wasn't himself. and i knew he'd feel better if he lost a little weight. so i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. i just fed the recommended amount... and they both loved the taste. after a few months max's "special powers" returned... and i got my hero back. purina cat chow healthy weight. by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues... with three strains of good bacteria. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. she pretty much lives in h
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with civil lib tear yabs concerned about constitutional rights and some members of congress arguing that doesn't go far enough. that he should be held as an enemy combatant without rights. >> joins us now, pete williams. good to see you. so many things to get to. let's start with the charges we're expecting to be filed. we should see those today? that's the plan. they're working on them now. they've got them in a draft form and it's one of the things of going through the draft until everyone is satisfied with it. it's going to be another couple hours before they file them. >> do we know what theyer ooh likely to be. >> it's quite clear that they'll charge him with use of a weapon of mas destruction. same sounding term people usually use that to mean a nuclear biological weapon. but under federal law it can mean a grenade or a bomb. that's what the charge will undoubtedly be. that is a terrorism charge so, you know it is a terrorism case. >> the other key question is ooh when they might have a chance to talk to him. is there any indication that they might have talked to him already o
with civil lib tear yabs concerned about constitutional rights and some members of congress arguing that doesn't go far enough. that he should be held as an enemy combatant without rights. >> joins us now, pete williams. good to see you. so many things to get to. let's start with the charges we're expecting to be filed. we should see those today? that's the plan. they're working on them now. they've got them in a draft form and it's one of the things of going through the draft until...